Proceedings of GreenFacts CER 2004 Round Table
"Bringing scientific information to non-specialists"
Print version
Brussels, June 4, 2004.
CER 2004 Conference: Communicating European Research,
12 May 2004, Charlemagne Centre, Brussels
With: Paul Galand, Ann Van der Auweraert, Jacques de Selliers,
Dick Wife, Mary Weed.
Roud table programm
Opening remarks
Science ensures Credibility
The tone was set by the moderator, David Zaruk, who stressed that
with today’s overabundance of information, ease of publication
and lack of control or validation process, a serious public distrust
of information has developed. Libraries are being replaced by the
Internet, and with the overflow of information, people now need
to make a "credibility judgment" on information before
using it. Science and scientific information though is generally
perceived as trustworthy, underlining the importance of a proper
communication of scientific information to non-specialists as a
means to ensure credible information for decision-makers.

Paul Galand, Professor, Researcher in fundamental oncology, ULB;
President, WWF Belgium; Scientific Adviser and TV presenter, RTBF.
Communicating science is a marketing occupation.
Paul Galand started the round table by outlining the difference
between communicating on what scientists do and communicating on
science – with the latter being equal to "selling science" as
a form of marketing. Certain journals such as "Nature" influence
what is considered "good science" as they apply certain
rules to what they consider a "sexy" paper which can
be published. So even among scientists you need to "sell".
Scientists should practice explaining what they do! Professor
Galand explained that by getting their friends, spouse or taxi
drivers to understand their work, the scientists are framing their
work in a manner where not only other people, but also they themselves,
can better situate its scientific value and social significance.
Communicating to laymen helps scientists to clarify the concepts
used and to keep track of what the aims of their research are.
A measure of good communication is "survival". In
his case, Paul Galand’s wildlife TV show "le Jardin
extraordinaire" has survived for 40 years, broadcasting over
1500 shows

Ann Van der Auweraert, University of Antwerp, Science Shop, WE-Com,
Mens, Hoe? Zo!
Science Shops: Building bridges between research and the general
public
Ann Van der Auweraert began with the remark that the problem of
science communication arises when complex political or ethical
issues are involved. In this case, there seems to be a lack of
interactive communication. The concept of the science shop was
developed to build bridges and serve as an interface for research
on demand. Science shops provide scientific information and research
to groups in society who have no expertise or money, such as senior’s
clubs, environmental groups and neighbourhood committees.
Via the science shop, a social group can request scientific research
or information. If research is needed, it is then transformed into
a research question, carried out in a student research project,
leading to the publication of a report for the social group who
asked for the research. The goal is to provide better scientific
information, improve dialogue between the scientists and non-specialists
and encourage science students to be more conscious of the problems
relevant to the public.

Jacques de Selliers, General Manager, GreenFacts
Using the Internet to provide easy access to complex scientific
information
Jacques de Selliers explained how GreenFacts takes authoritative
scientific documents on health and environment issues and, using
the Internet medium, summarizes them in a clear language. This
information is structured into questions and answers in the GreenFacts
Three-Level structure of increasing detail. This user-friendly
presentation enables a non-specialist (policymaker, journalist,
stakeholder…) to get a clear, short answer to a question
on Level One, find more information on Level Two, and then verify
the answer against the scientific source document on Level Three.
The Internet provides the means for multi-dimensional communication,
so that each summarized sentence can be verified against its authoritative
source document (published by international organizations like
the WHO, UN, IARC, EU), adding to the credibility of the information.
The Three-Level Structure also enables simultaneous communication
to three different target audiences: non-specialists who just want
a simple, short answer; decision-makers and stakeholders who need
enough clear details to take a position; and the scientific community
who want to see that the research information is disseminated in
its entirety.

Dick Wife, Kids and Science, Specs
Giving kids a scientific forum
Dick Wife explained how Kids and Science provides a platform for
communicating science to young people. It encompasses several features:
- The "Science Village" is a project involving kids in
science by spending a week at a particular location, with science
workshops and hands-on projects.
- The "Virtual science city" is
an Internet resource and forum for kids structured around seven
different themes.
- An example of questions raised in this forum is: "My
Better World" encouraging projects in schools
on issues they would like to improve, such as soft drinks
or global warming.
By providing early science communication, kids will become better
future citizens.
Mary Weed, Media and Communications Consultant
How can scientists be more media-savvy?
Mary Weed shared her experiences on how the press can be used
and how the press uses scientific information. Underlying the credibility
issue is the view that science equals information and policy equals
judgment. To have journalists receive the information, they need
an image, such as the ozone layer, sea horses or the panda.
She outlined several points for a scientist to have an effective
media strategy: 1.) Expert opinions are better than none. Scientists
need not be overly cautious in their comments. 2.) It is OK to
ask a journalist for a little time to think about a comment. 3.)
Don’t be frightened to express an opinion and don’t
agree with a press comment that you don’t agree with, just
because that is what the journalist needs. 4.) In the media, radio
can be trusted to portray your thoughts the best, followed by TV,
and then the written press.

Round Table Discussions
Role of scientists in communicating
The moderator provoked discussion on what he called the Carl Sagan
effect – that once a scientist begins to gain recognition
for popularizing science, he or she loses standing from within
the scientific community.
Paul Galand noted that when he started his activities on TV he
felt almost ashamed about doing TV shows. However, it was well
perceived by his university. Although, his colleagues were positively
impressed, they did not help him.
Ann Van der Auweraert added that the positive attitude of scientists
towards science communication is not necessarily in line with their
behaviour. In their work there is no real incentive to communicate.
The reaction is often "OK this is important but not for me".
Mary Weed interpreted this as: Those scientists are not interested
in communicating (if they say they have no time, effectively, they
are not interested). Paul Galand remarked that it is better that
people who "have no time" do not enter into such an
occupation. Jacques de Selliers recommended that scientific experts
should work together with professional non-specialist writers to
ensure that scientific information is both accurate and clear to
the layman. Mary Weed noted how the public needs a personification
of science, citing the positive, popularizing role of Einstein.

Communication as a form of desire
Marie-José Loverini, from the French Ministry of Research,
offered a comment that spurred debate on communication as desire
and the role of science therein. She outlined the history of the
word communication, how it was used for the first time in an erotic
poem in the 11th century and then afterwards in a medical treaty
on sexually communicable diseases. Communicating is being sexy
but not being a seducer, telling the truth (making the truth more
attractive), creating desire and knowing what is missing.
Paul Galand agreed that the notion of desire is important. You
must feel your audience. "Pas de communication sans manipulation".
He tackled the issue as a biologist. In biology there is a receptor
and an emitter which seeks to influence the behaviour of the receptor.
It is important to feel the public, to know what they expect and
how to address it. You have to understand and adapt to the logic
of the other person. But does that mean that you are manipulating
the other one? No more than when you choose to use the other’s
mother language to communicate. The objective is to influence the
other’s behaviour. Not to direct it. 
Science within a context
Paul Galand declared that science is not innocent. "Once
you leave the ivory tower, you must be careful not to fall into
the gutter." It is harmful when scientists bypass the circuit
of consensus found within the scientific community and immediately
communicate their findings before they are evaluated, if not necessarily
accepted by their peers. Science takes place within a particular
context; it has a homogenous strategy, and must have a coherent
message.
If you want to reach a particular public, a specific target, you
must know all the surrounding conditions. It is better to work
on improving the "art" of communication with people,
specialists as well as non-specialists. Do not expect that someone
who is unable to clearly communicate on scientific concepts and
data with colleagues will be able to do so with laymen. However,
this is a minimum, yet not a sufficient condition to be a good "science
popularizer".

How do you communicate without a consensus?
Professor Wim Sinke (ECN, Netherlands) asked Jacques
de Selliers how documents are chosen at GreenFacts given that there is a lack
of broad consensus in the scientific community. Reaching a consensus
is very difficult. Consensus is more of a theoretical concept,
as there will always be disagreements.
Jacques de Selliers agreed that different scientists can have
different views. For that reason, GreenFacts only summarizes documents
published by international organizations (like the WHO, UN, IARC
or EU) that are written consensually by a wide body of scientific
experts. They present the current state of the science and make
a clear distinction between the points where most scientists agree,
where there are different views and points that remain unclear
because more research is needed. 
On science communication and education
A remark was raised over the fact that science education at school
should give the public the means to deal with information from
scientific debates (like the issue of the risks of MMR vaccines)
and to understand the issues themselves.
Dick Wife replied that there is a responsibility to interact with
kids and dose the information, so that they are prepared and able
to give a rational response. Paul Galand agreed, adding that scientists
must never oversimplify. Information plays an essential role in
issues such as MMR, and in this case the aim of science is to educate. 
Needs for communicating science
It was generally agreed that funding was the main issue science
communicators are facing today. Dick Wife noted that fundraising
took up a considerable part of his time. Dick Wife, Jacques
de Selliers and Ann Van der Auweraert all concurred that obtaining
support not only in words but in funding is a considerable obstacle
between what they do and what they could do. 
Future of science in society
Paul Galand’s vision is that science in society is already
being replaced by technology. "Problem solving" takes
the place of scientific inquiry. He is afraid that the fundamental
aim of the scientific endeavour, namely to understand the world,
will be lost on the way…at least for a prolonged period.
Jacques de Selliers noted that the scientific consensus can evolve.
Science is but one element to be taken into account in the decision-making
process, among other factors such as social and economic aspects,
values and cultures. However science is still the best available
ground on which to base the dialogue between groups representing
different views and conflicting interests. Better communication
of the current state of science will enable a more constructive
dialogue and lead to sounder policy decisions.
Dick Wife warned: Don’t leave science
only to the scientists!
Mary Weed fears the disappearance of science. Science is compromised
in society. It may not have a significant cultural role but it
plays an important role that is often set aside. Science must not
remain the privilege of scientists; it must be shared and communicated.
The threat is obvious when we take a step backward. A sense of
urgency has to be created so we can react. Since most scientific
advances are incremental and breakthroughs are rare, science must
carefully tread the path between playing up aspects of a report
and sensationalizing it.
Ann Van der Auweraert: Science consists of both generating knowledge
and solving problems. The former tends to be given a higher status.
A balance is needed as both approaches are necessary.

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